apostates undercover elders (i know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a jc envoling a publisher viewing sites like jwn or others and who question the gb etc.. and if not what if you were assigned a jc involving apostacy?.
i would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.. kensho.
EE,
No one's said that you had to leave the religion. I was commenting on those who hold the position of elder. I can see a difference between being an elder and being a rank and file JW. Maybe you can't but I was in congregations where elders did step down for one reason or another so I've seen it happen, including my immediate family. I might be a mere ex-sister but I'm not completely ignorant.
interesting how the scammers always turn up at the same time on the same day - monday approx 5pm australian time.. maybe the scammer is the same person?.
why don't they post at different times or days??.
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The same scammer came back on a Tuesday afternoon....
Any mods about???
apostates undercover elders (i know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a jc envoling a publisher viewing sites like jwn or others and who question the gb etc.. and if not what if you were assigned a jc involving apostacy?.
i would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.. kensho.
Tec,
You've missed another aspect of the hypocrisy of being an unbelieving elder - that the mere fact that they are an elder, helps keep other JWs enslaved to the WTS.
Elders are not silent partners - they would have a part in the meetings at least once a week, they have various duties in the KH, they are on committees, they counsel other JWs, and they TAKE THE LEAD IN THE WITNESSING WORK.
JWs look up to elders for help and confirmation that their faith in the JWs is justified. So even if they don't fully believe in the JW doctrine, a person in the position of elder is still upholding the JW religion. Such hypocrisy is amazing, and I honestly wonder how they sleep at night.
I left because I knew it wasn't the Truth, and it bothered my conscience to be part of that religion. So it's hard to see others who don't have the same values. And it's hard to respect them as people.
I could go on, but I'm not going to waste my breath on such hypocrites.
im the nervy, anxious type.
i suffer with panic attacks and sometimes my agoraphobia cripples me.
the organisation effectively isolated me fo a long time.
So glad you two re-connected. Some friendships never die.
apostates undercover elders (i know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a jc envoling a publisher viewing sites like jwn or others and who question the gb etc.. and if not what if you were assigned a jc involving apostacy?.
i would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.. kensho.
By pretending these are all people with autonomy that you have no influence over is just wrong. Everytime you get up and give a talk TEACHING those people falsehood you are continuing the lie. Everytime you dont standup and deny it all being true you allow the lies to live.
Lets be frank, you could leave. Its hard but it is essentially the right thing to do. The society is NEVER going to become THE tre religion. You may have family etc and feel this is impossible, granted... but do you have to serve as an Elder? Does the pull of being a big fish in a small pond mean so much to you? As an elder you affect peoples lives.
I really, really dont know how you do it.
Before you tell me how ignorant I am, I mean no offence, I sincerely dont. I dont pretend to understand everyone's situation. But I really, really dont know how the elders here sleep at night. Be honest is it difficult? Does the conscience not cry out?
Well said.
Hmmm, I haven't, but then I don't live in Africa.
wow, so far 4 out of 4 "worldly" people i've talked to about my situation, actually care.
i mean ive been telling myself that most people would care.
but i can just tell, by the way i feel shocked and surprised at their genuine interest to listen and help, that subconsciously, i still feel like no worldly person cares.
Hello and welcome.
interesting how the scammers always turn up at the same time on the same day - monday approx 5pm australian time.. maybe the scammer is the same person?.
why don't they post at different times or days??.
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That's an interesting theory, TTIM.
It sounds credible enough.
interesting how the scammers always turn up at the same time on the same day - monday approx 5pm australian time.. maybe the scammer is the same person?.
why don't they post at different times or days??.
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Interesting how the scammers always turn up at the same time on the same day - Monday approx 5pm Australian time.
Maybe the scammer is the same person?
Why don't they post at different times or days??
march 18, 1989. my wife and i mailed our da letter.
there's been a lot of life post-jw.
i'm glad we're not still waiting for something to happen.
Congrats!
